Erm, heh, I haven't actually tried any of the patterns yet :P. I'm really scared of messing with knitting patterns, it's not like sewing where you can just take it in and cut off if it's too big. The patterns I have are all for DK, and they do give gauges, but I wouldn't know how to calculate the conversions to smaller needles and wool. I'm good at following patterns, but I'm not that experienced of a knitter to know how many stitches on x wool and y needle = z cm. Can you give me some pointers? At the moment I have a handy chart of different wools and their guages, by which to judge equivalent SA wools. Also, a needle conversion chart. Most of the patterns available online are US, dammit. The watermelon hat gives a good formula, though, so I'll try that one. I need to get some circular needles! Never knitted with them before, you might hear a scream for help soon.

Hey, Panda is coming to UK tomorow... Mmm. *goes off to look at the stock*

Have you checked the patterns I pointed you too? This is messing around for babies. Honestly, you're *supposed* to just pick your needles and go, that's what they *want*!

Funny what you say though - that's how I feel about sewing (in reverse): too scary, it's not like knitting where I can just pull it out and start again... just a question of perspective. Be brave! Just knit!